Be Still and Live

#12: From Pain To Personal Power: Healing Beyond Trauma through Small, Faithful Shifts with Hope Rose

• Gillian Gabryluk • Season 1 • Episode 12

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What if the smallest shift in language could return your power, calm your nervous system, and begin to rewrite the story you're living?

In this powerful and tender conversation, we sit down with ultra-endurance athlete and HEALthy founder Hope Rose to explore what it means to honor grief without giving it the pen. Through her own journey, marked by domestic abuse, a harrowing court battle, and painful years separated from her child - Hope reveals what it looks like to refuse a victim narrative and reclaim authorship over your life.

Rather than bypassing the pain, Hope walks us through how to give grief dignity, speak truth with softness, and choose micro-movements that build resilience. You’ll hear simple, everyday shifts in language that rewire the nervous system, phrases like “I don’t think I like that” or “no problem”, alongside somatic practices that help move anger, soften judgment, and offer forgiveness to the one person we often leave out: ourselves.

We also widen the lens from personal healing to collective restoration, how disconnection from self, Source, and soil shapes the health of our families, our communities, and the earth. Hope invites us to return to the rhythms of growing food, honoring our bodies, and rebuilding patterns that support parents, children, and all who nurture life.

Whether you’re in a season of recovery, reflection, or rebuilding, this conversation offers sturdy hope, sacred honesty, and simple tools to help you come home to yourself.

Connect with Hope Rose: 

Website: www.hoperosespeaks.com

Instagram: Instagram.com/hoperosespeaks OR Instagram.com/weheal_thyself

Podcast: A Transformed Life

New here? Start with episodes 1-3: “Take Back Your Life”, "From Hustle to Healing", and “5 to Thrive.”

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Hope Rose:

When you're leaking energy, you don't have personal power in your life to affect your choices going forward.

Gillian:

If your days feel full, but your heart longs for more meaning, you're not alone. Between the screens, the schedules, and the never-ending noise, it's easy to lose your sense of peace. But what if the way forward isn't sound in doing more? But it's learning to slow down. To simplify, to be still. To be still and live. For individuals, couples, and families, connections, and a more meaningful way to live. I'm Julian, speaker, coach, and founder of Paleo Health and Wellness. And I'm here to help you create space for stillness and step into a life that feels whole and good again. Today's conversation goes a little deeper into healing, resilience, and what it looks like to live in alignment with our bodies and values. I'm joined by Hope Rose, an ultra-endurance athlete and the founder of Heal Vi, a platform designed to make healing more accessible and tangible for everyday living. Hope's work sits at the intersection of personal well-being and the way we care for our homes, our families, and the world around us. She supports individuals, families, and founders in calming their nervous systems, reconnecting with their bodies, and creating lives that feel cleaner, clearer, and more intentional. This conversation may invite reflection. Take what resonates, leave what doesn't, and allow this to be a pause, a moment to slow down and listen to someone's story and how they transformed it into something beautiful. Let's dive in. Hope Rose, I'm so glad you're here. Welcome to Be Still in Live Podcast.

Hope Rose:

Thank you so much for having me.

Gillian:

Absolutely. I'm excited to have this conversation. You have such an interesting resume, an ultra-endurance athlete and founder of Heal By. Can you share a little bit more about your story, Hope Rose, and what got you to this point in your career and your journey?

Hope Rose:

Yes, thank you. So, you know, what transforms us in our lives is the really hard, difficult things. And so having a cut, you know, decades of ultra-endurance background, before I will share what happened next, really set me up for having a very firm mindset and a way to navigate the most horrific pain a person really can ever go through. And so nine years ago, I was introduced to what would become the father of my child. And the red flags were not immediate because that's what abusers unfortunately do is they con you, they sell you a promise. And I left my entire life where I was living, moved out to be with him because he promised me the world. Everything that I said I wanted, he was willing to provide. And I will try to make this story a nine-year-old a nine-year story into a couple minutes here. But the abuse escalated pretty much immediately. And uh in every single facet, financially, emotionally, mentally, all of it. And I gave birth to my son in April of 2018. And just a few weeks after giving birth, he applied for life insurance policy on me, uh stay-at-home newly postpartum female. So that just kind of sets up of like course of control. And, you know, when you give birth after you've gone through pregnancy, like your hormones were all naturally all over the place. So just a very vulnerable time for you know a female. Like I and I honestly didn't even think about this incident until almost a year later, someone brought it to me. And I was like, oh my gosh, like I was in triage. Like, what is going on? So anyway, I was, you know, stay-at-home mom. He was a full working uh soul provider, and he he only he wanted life insurance on me for 600,000, just disability on him, and for a four-week old uh 250 life. And that just kind of sets up the this person's behavior. And he attempted to take our lives twice over the course of that summer, and the domestic violence abuse just it was it was awful. I still cannot believe I lived through that. It was such a hellacious time. And then uh eventually he walked out when my son was seven months old and said, good luck. Uh, you know, I'm not coming back, I'm not telling you where I'm at, you know, just left. He eventually came back 10 days later, changed the locks on our house, took away my car, closed our joint checking account, literally left me with not even a diaper. And uh took me to court for custody and child support. We did not have a uh marriage license, and that was of really my choice. I am not a fan of the government, and I don't believe in asking the government permission to have a marriage license. So there was no marriage divorce involved, it was strictly custody and child support. And I knew enough about the system at that point that it was not, it was not what people think family court is. And so, long story short, is uh we had a final order that he came into stipulation with me in October 2019. I had full custody, my son lived with me, and he would get visitation about 12 hours a month uh one weekend. And he still didn't pay his child support that he took himself to court for. Anyway, make that make sense. And when child support services enforced child support, he filed for sole custody. And that's that's just a kind of the path that narcissistic sociopathic abusive behavior people do. And I fought the system, and ultimately in February of 2022, I guess March 2022, that time frame, my little boy was trafficked from me. Wow. And he was barely four years old, and the judge rubber stamped uh the order that his attorney had. I did not have an attorney, and just gave him sole legal physical custody with no hearing, with no evidence, not literally ignoring the home state of the child's all of the statutes that they have. Due process rights, you have a right to due process, to present evidence, to have witnesses, to have a hearing, have a trial. And they literally stripped me of my rights, cold turkey. Yeah, for two and a half years, I did not know where my son was, zero contact. I had raised him his entire life. He spent every waking moment with me for four years. And going through that, knowing that what I did was not wrong, other than standing up to a system. I had also filed a federal lawsuit against these actors. They did not like a strong woman standing up for not just me and my baby, but for millions of other mothers and parents who are going through the same thing, really calling out the system's uh child trafficking uh agenda. There's Title IV, Title IV, and the you know, the system um receives bonuses for every child that it removes from a safe parent. There's evaluators, there's programs, there's fees, you know, children are revenue. That is child trafficking. And so, yeah, I've walked this uh path that I never never dreamed of walking for the past, yeah, three and a half years. And yeah, Hope Rose came to me right before this all went down. And it was such a divine name given for protection, given for even guidance. And, you know, as I continue to navigate, you know, post post all of this, you know, I'm still very much in it, I realized what a gift I have in the midst of all of this to really be that light of like, wow, you can, you know, go through something so horrific, and yet how how you can still show up and lead your life and lead others at the same time. And so what we were kind of, you know, talking beforehand is you know, how can I steward my story to the best of my ability in order to give others hope, uh, you know, inspiration, encouragement, and also shed a light on this pervasive darkness where they are destroying families left and right, all in the name of power, greed, and control. And that will stop.

Gillian:

I appreciate your vulnerability and sharing this story with us. And uh it's hard to hear that this act that this happens in our culture. I was having a conversation with a friend recently who revealed that she was in an abusive marriage and it was all under our nose. We had no idea. And I know it's courage like this that gives people the opportunity to share their story, to feel like they're a part of a community of people who are experiencing the same thing. And thank you for sharing that with us, Hope Rose.

Hope Rose:

Yeah, you're very welcome. Yeah, I, you know, shame can really like I've really worked with shame a lot. Like uh, I would give Brene Brown a run for her money. I think I'm the next expert on shame. And you know, really working with there's a lot of stigma of, you know, they even shame women who are killed, of like, well, she should have said something. Well, what happened if she did? Like the system is not set up to protect mothers and children. 3.4 women a day, a day are killed by former or current intimate partners.

Gillian:

Wow.

Hope Rose:

That statistic is scary. And I'm not much for statistics, but I say that one just to highlight the problem that we have here in our country, you know, in America, and as global too. You know, domestic violence is not just you know isolated to, you know, one country. It's it's all over. And so that highlights a bigger, a bigger problem of we need massive healing on a major scale. And so, how can I facilitate that to the masses instead of just you know, one-on-one and a story here and there? It's like this story, you know, of my pain, really uh, you know, putting it to yes, purpose, but also real change. Not just change we talk about, but real healing of like, oh, these are the patterns that have been passed down through generations. And yeah, trauma abuse stops with me. So a lot of people, you know, say, oh, generational, you know, cur, you know, curses, like, you know, we're gonna stop that. Well, how do you stop that? Well, you stop it by your behavior, by, you know, putting yourself in programs and being accountable and not continuing that cycle of ego-driven uh behaviors that are hurting your family, the community, because it spills, you know, one person, one person can hurt somebody and it triples down to everybody else. And I like to say when one person heals, we all heal. So the more we can accelerate that healing really expands. And I would love to see that number of women being killed daily to zero. Like that, that is one of my goals. Like, if we can get that to zero and you know, reach out to these men who desperately need healing in so many areas of their life so you know, so they are not taking out their anger and their violence. They have a, you know, a proper place to channel that and to actually love the women that have brought them into the world and have brought their children into the world, and to start respecting mothers and the life they provide. Women are the only women, you know, mothers are the only ones that can provide life and nourishment. And, you know, it's been weaponized against us, and it is prevalent in the family court system. Millions of mothers. I'm not an isolated case, unfortunately. Mothers are going to prison left and right for disclosing abuse, and the system does not like that. So, how did I get here? That is a 15-minute short snippet of how I got here. And, you know, that is like kind of the current act scene in my in my movie, so to speak, of like, yeah, this is the current chapter I'm walking. You know, historically, I've always been an entrepreneur, always really in life, um, living life in service to others and guiding them to live well in mind, body, and spirit. And so whether that's teaching them holistic principles or, you know, healing or helping them connect back with nature. There's so many different things I kind of pull from. But yeah, my life has been one of service and it is continuing on that way, and I think in a bigger scale coming up here soon.

Gillian:

Well, I think the awareness is so important. You're you're making us aware of a reality that we we want to turn away from. We don't want to be aware that these things are happening in our culture. But awareness is that first step, isn't it? Just opening our eyes and seeing what is right in front of us. Pope Rose, you talk about victim consciousness. And I came across a bit of the story on an Instagram post that you made recently. I knew it was a conversation that we needed to have because knowing your story now, and uh I think anyone could understand that you you have every excuse to be angry and to say that like men don't deserve anything and they don't deserve our love. They don't deserve, they're just these people in our society that are hurting women. You you are allowed to have that perspective, but instead you shifted it to these men need our love. They need healing. And that's where it starts. I I want to dig into this a little bit, this victim consciousness that you have every right to have right now. How do you switch that blame or shame and turn it into hope and personal power like you have?

Hope Rose:

Many nights of anguish and tears and days, not just nights. And I think the first thing is allowing myself to grieve. Grieve what was grieve what was wrongly stolen from me. Like, you know, I, you know, like my child was stolen from me, his innocent, like all the things. So giving myself the dignity of the experience, it would be, I guess, step one. If there's a little ebook to go along with this, it'd be step one, giving myself the dignity of the experience. Step two is to realize they win when I let them have power over me. When I let them have that story of like, well, she's such a bad person, like whatever their narrative narrative is. And I can take my power back by this is what you know, some of what I teach my clients is this very simple statement, like internal. I don't think I like that. Instead of like getting bogged down in the nitty-gritty details of like the injustices that continue to happen. And so, you know, as soon as something, whether it's big or major, of like it could be even somebody, you know, cutting you off in the road, and instead of like going into a judgment of them of like, how dare they, you know, I deserve to be on the road too, giving them you know that that power they don't even know that they've affected you, you are like leaking energy. So when you're leaking energy, you don't have personal power in your life to affect your choices going forward. And so there's gonna be, you know, levels of degrees of people, what I call like energy vampires, you know, attempting to take energy power from you by just continuing to like to poke at you, whether it's, you know, court filings or nasty comments or just you know, there's a plethora of ideas that people just, you know, continuingly like do things to irk you. And really coming to a place of I care and I don't care. Like you kind of have to hold them both in the same hand, not letting it affect me. Because when you let it affect you, that person is going to amp up their, you know, energy vampire attacks even more. And so for me, how I kind of you know came to this place was just habitual every single day, and you know, I mean, to this day too, of just really making it a practice. Another one I use is no problem, no problem internally, of just like, I don't think I like that. And it really brings your power back. And actually, I just I'm working with another client right now and I, you know, teaching her this process. She's going also through a court experience, and she actually has physically changed. I can see it in her face by using these very simple tools, these very simple statements of like, oh, I actually am in control of how I respond. I might not be in control of some of the other factors. I am in control of how I respond. Do I want to respond or do I want to react? And we're teaching the nervous system too, of like, because if we are always living in the reaction victim state, you know, life is just awful. Life, you know, um, I never have enough money. Uh the kids are always grouchy, you know, the boss is always upset at me. Like we're offloading responsibility onto someone else and taking that responsibility and power back for ourselves of like, how do I want to show up for myself today? And when you energetically switch that, the people around you automatically, vibrationally, this is all kind of quantum stuff. They have to match that frequency because we're doing that internal work of like, yeah, I'm not gonna let you bully me around mentally anymore. I'm gonna take my power back. I'm going to, you know, think kind thoughts to myself. And that is how we move from victim consciousness into being the author of our story. And it's really powerful work. It is hard work because you know, ego doesn't typically typically like that. We want to blame everyone else and really acknowledging, like, oh, I have the power, like, okay, yes, I made that choice.

Speaker 3:

Mm-hmm.

Hope Rose:

And how can I move forward and give myself grace, love, compassion, care of like, yeah, that happened. And moving forward, now I have awareness. When I have awareness, I can make change. When I have change, I can also change my beliefs. What did I previously think? And what are new aligned beliefs that want to be in the outcome of the life I desire? And so that is uh, yeah, it's that's transformational work right there.

Gillian:

It is. And and like you said, it's it's simple, but it's not easy. It's not easy at all. It means rewiring your brain the way you think, the way you exist in your life. And um I mean, I I totally understand what you're saying about that victim mentality and how easy I find when my emotions become uncomfortable, the first thing I want to do is blame somebody else. And I'm catching myself in that because I'm trying to teach my kids not to blame and to take responsibility when something's happened. If they tip over a cup of water, they want to blame it on someone else. And I'm trying to redirect them and say, okay, let's just the the water tipped over, let's find the solution. Let's not look for blame. Let's take responsibility and find the solution. And I'm finding that so freeing. But what you're saying is it's not, this isn't meant for just the big traumatic with a capital T experiences in our life. It's those micro moments that we experience that are inviting us to respond in this way.

Hope Rose:

For sure. Yeah. I mean, and you know, our culture is steeped in victim consciousness. So if you look, um, this is a classic example. How, you know, if there's a car accident, how many people are rubber necking to see the car wreck?

Gillian:

Everybody.

Hope Rose:

Everybody. Victim consciousness. Like everybody wants to feel sorry. Like, take someone who um has an illness. Oh, you poor thing, I'm so sorry. Like, what can I get you? It's all like our country loves victim consciousness because when you're in victim consciousness, they have power and control over you. And when you come back into your autonomy of like, no, I have power over how I respond and not react, they no longer have control over you. So our whole country is under this collective consciousness, which I really hope to elevate to come out of that. Because when the country, like when the population starts moving from victim consciousness to power, they won't be able to control you anymore. And so, yeah, just looking at micro examples, but you'll see it online. Like happy posts typically don't get as much likes. Yeah, so you know, society likes victims. If you're poor, you know, if you don't have money, like it's just it's that it's that power of just like be like society really feeds off of like looking at the train wrecks versus looking at pretty green trees on the other side of the of the road. And so I should have listened to that Instagram post before I came on, but I, you know, and I didn't. I forget what exactly what I was saying in there, but maybe you can refresh my memory on that.

Gillian:

Absolutely. No, I just wanted to touch on the uh idea of responding to those micro moments where you're pulled into that victim mentality or that anger and understanding that you have power in those moments. That that's what you were discussing is flipping the way that you view things, the way that you respond them. And um, you talked about how you start to notice when you're slipping into that pattern, how you can change that pattern before it hijacks your energy for the day. And I think that's a very powerful practice to integrate into your life. Because, like you said, it it makes you feel like you're not being controlled and that you have the opportunity to respond. You have the freedom to choose the way you respond.

Hope Rose:

Absolutely. Yeah. And you know, if past history is like, oh, you know, well, this has, you know, chronically happened. And if you keep living in the past, you're gonna be dragging your past with you until you decide that I'm tired of the past. I'm going to start today a new future. And really, you know, um acknowledging the anger or the frustration, like there's somatic ways. I, you know, I just gave a client some, yeah, a bunch of tools to like, it's okay to release anger in healthy, contained settings, you know, parameters of of that nature. And then moving, like, you know, set a time limit, like, okay, uh, take a plastic bat and I'm gonna beat this pillow for five minutes. And you know, another citizen I even gave her was like write a whole bunch of sticky notes, put it on the pillow of what you're angry at. You might be even like, and a lot of the time it's anger at herself for a choice we made that you know we wanted a certain outcome. And so it's really like releasing that anger. Um, so there's so many different yeah, tools like because you know, the popular book, The Body Keeps the Score, like we want to give our body the permission and allow it to move the energy through because like that's where disease dis-ease happened, hyphenated word, is when that emotion, that energy gets stuck in our body that we weren't allowed to process typically as a kid, or even you know, when things happen as adults too. Like if we let it stay in our body, that's gonna fester and it's gonna be a little bit more challenging to kind of move into the author of your story versus you know, versus victim consciousness. The other piece of this work is releasing judgments of yourself, other people, and situations. And so that kind of coincides with becoming, yeah, a powerful ally in your story instead of instead of letting someone else, you know, write the whole script.

Gillian:

Right. Right. It's such an empowering lens that no matter what's happened, we still have that choice. Right. We we still have that choice. And that brings us to I think the heart of the message and the reason why I wanted to speak with you today is transforming that pain into purpose. Because so many of us are lacking meaning and purpose. And so many of us have experienced trauma and difficult things. It's really difficult to make sense of that and very easy to fall into that victim mentality of woe is me. But that keeps you stuck. You talk about the shift from this happened to me to this ha this is happening for me. What changes when we start to see our lives through that lens?

Hope Rose:

Yeah, so there's, I think it's uh one of those similar quotes originated with um Tony Robbins of like, uh, yeah, you know, this is happening for me. I I take that a little step further, I guess. And things just happen. Like my situation, if you're listening to this, you know, you can think of a situation that was not right, was unfair, like all the things. And so I think I I'm very I'm very mindful of spiritual bypassing. Because I think sometimes in like, you know, in transformational work, it can become like we're gonna reframe every single thing in our life. And while that is helpful, we also want to be very mindful of like we're not bypassing patterns or behaviors and also acknowledging that there's things that happen that should have never happened. And so kind of holding that with a grain of sand of like, yes, I acknowledge things simply happened. I, you know, some people like, oh, but you know, a divorce is the best thing that ever happened to me. Or, you know, this would have never happened if, you know, I didn't, it's usually always divorce, or you know, if I lost my job. And I I think it's a it's a little it hits me different, obviously, because I lost my child. I, as of this iteration of me, I I'm still not at a point. I don't I don't think I will be of like, this is the best thing that ever happened to me. Even if I somehow have all the success or, you know, change things, losing losing your child that, you know, I grew in my body and birthed and nourished and cared for and did all the things. I don't think I can ever honestly say that's the best thing that ever. It's it's it is by it is it is not honoring of his life and it's not honoring of my life. So that's kind of where I'm at on this blanket statement of like, yeah, everything happens for you. I I just don't align with that. Maybe, maybe I will change that in some years, not currently. And with that being said, of like, okay, this did happen. How can I move forward? Of like, you aren't going to steal my joy. You may have stolen my baby, you may have done all these awful things to me. And I hold the keys to my joy, my happiness, transforming this paint into worldwide global peace, utopia, uh, a little bit more nitty-gritty than that. And that's not all, you know, rainbows and puppy dog tails. Um, but like, okay, you know what? I've been given this. I'm not really sure why, other than, you know, yes, my human design says this, or you know, gene keys says this, and I can still choose every day to make a choice to lead myself because I know that's not how I'm gonna lead others. And that kind of becomes the way you, you know, where I have transformed my pain into like power, peace, and purpose of like, okay, how I'm gonna remove the pen from you know, from their hand, take it back. They may have contributed sentences to my story, and I get to write the chapters, I get to write the ending, I get to write the sequels. They do not hold that power over me. And so, really, it is a daily choice, and it's not about you know perfection. Um, you know, I still go through moments of just like, oh, cannot believe this happened. I, you know, I I talked to how many attorneys and not one person caught it. It's it took me three and a half years to find this gold nugget. I just found something interesting in my case that you know is exciting and I still know it's gonna be a very long road. And it's also still kind of frustrating of like, how many people did I talk to in three and a half years and not one person caught it? And I was trying, I was making all the phone calls, I was doing all the you know the right things. And so that's when you kind of move into another phase, another, another, it's not a three-letter word, but most people think it is surrender, surrender of just like, you know, okay, I have been given this, you know, what we were talking earlier. I've been given this masterpiece to paint. How can I paint it to the best of my ability so that others can see it and be like, oh, that's a painting I also want to paint with my life. How does she do it? How can I paint my masterpiece? How can I, you know, how can I bring my gifts, my my trauma into the world and really move from an empowered place? And when you move from an empowered place, that's how you get your energy. You don't need another cup of coffee. You really need to bring the energy into yourself. Um, and when you're connected with God's source, that energy is multiplied. And it's a really beautiful thing. You can you can leverage that um for the highest good of all.

Gillian:

It's a beautiful perspective. It's almost like you're describing this emotional and spiritual freedom where energy belongs to us again, and that choice is always ours. For sure.

Hope Rose:

Yeah, you know, spirituality and transformational healing work is, you know, it's gnarly. You know, I think most, you know, most people have some, you know, some degree of, you know, a traumatic story or event in their life. And a lot of people, we can see how the world is using that of just letting their, you know, their blisters and their wounds bleed out to on everyone. Kind of what happened in me, you know, we're just the shrapnel. Like we're the collateral damage. And it's like, okay, well, let's pick up these pieces. And yeah, the more, you know, my hand is extended to every person that wants a better life for themselves, that wants to, you know, drop the hate and the anger and whatever the F happened. Like, you know, it happened for whatever reason. You know, I'm not AI. I don't know why.

Speaker 3:

I'm not thought.

Hope Rose:

And my hand, both hands are extended to you of saying, you know what? Heal this because you're gonna wake up. You're not going to be, you know, an angry, bitter person into your community, into your family. You know, they like they, like the system wants to destroy families. And it started very innocently, you know, probably in the 50s, really, World War II, of really separating the family. You know, we have less family dinners, we have all these sports activities. The, you know, the mother works outside the home, so we have daycare. And it's all these little fractures that add up to, you know, a 10.0 earthquake. And so when we can bring the family unit back and heal fathers and heal mothers, and really of like, what are we doing to our next generation? Is this the generation we want that we're gonna leave? Where, you know, we have all these abused children who now are gonna find another abused partners, you know, and like their trauma just like let's stop this. Like, what is what is continuing to, you know, invite you to continue the abuse? Aren't you tired of it? And for some people aren't, you know, for some people they're like they don't have consciousness away around that. They're still very much in, you know, she did that, he did that. And uh, you know, at the end of the day, God is God is the true judge. He knows what is what is true, what is wrong, and it is up to us to, you know, live a life of integrity, inspiration, taking whatever ashes that we have been given and making a really beautiful life out of them, as painful as it is.

Gillian:

I think that's something we all need to hear. And it uh it actually perfectly merges into the next question I have for you. Because I feel like it's so important right now in our culture. There's just so much divisiveness. This um collective healing, I feel like is is so necessary right now. And it's this idea of taking personal responsibility instead of focusing on all of the negatives and pointing out all of the ways that we don't agree with each other, coming back to that place where we do agree and understanding that we actually agree on more than what we've come to believe. And um I just love the idea of each individual inspiring each individual to take that personal responsibility to be the change they wish to see in the world and to understand that it's possible instead of buying into this idea that it's hopeless. I have four kids. I refuse to believe that it's hopeless. It's the reason I started this business and this podcast because I believe we have to choose hope. That is the only option. And in order to do that, we have to take that personal responsibility. So I'm curious to know from your experience, how can we contribute to healing the current disconnection in our society?

Hope Rose:

Great question. Yeah, um, before I answer that, like be the change you wish to see in the world and also be the healing you wish to see in the world, be the transformation. You know, a lot of like the word change is is just, I don't know, I just feel like it's so overused. And so really like, what's the healing? What's the joy I want to see in the world? That's that's who I'm going to be today. You know, I'm going to be the transformation I see, and it's going to start with me. So just a little, yeah, teaching moment on that. Disconnection. It's one of another favorite topics of mine. So we, we as a you know, collective are very disconnected from ourself. We're disconnected from source, God, and disconnected from soil, from Mother Earth, from the land herself. You know, people think chocolate milk comes from a chocolate cow. I think we might be past that. But like, you know, uh, it's a little, it's a little laughter in a in a serious podcast of like, oh yeah, like where does my, you know, where does my food come from? And again, this, you know, it was really after World War II is when the Industrial Revolution, you know, started. And that is when all the synthetic chemicals and pesticides and Roundup, that is when the use really began. And, you know, everything from the family unit, and we, you know, we slowly but surely pushed out the farmer, or even, you know, farming was also made very industrial with, you know, synthetic chemicals and herbicides and all of that. And putting people in sky rises and sitting behind a desk and a keyboard, and we slowly sucked the life out of them. And the system sold their soul a script. Yes, lots of S's. It's the speaker in me. Yeah. Sold their, yeah, sold their soul, you know, the system sold their soul a script they never aligned to. And it just happened so slowly. And, you know, part of the script is like, you know, initially it was like, you know, well, your kids have to go to public school, they have to have a public education, and then, you know, it was like a four-year degree. And when you get the four-year degree, and then you get, you know, the job in the middle of the office and you work your way up to the corner office, and it's like all these achievement things. And it started with grades. If you look back at it, it's like, oh, well, you know, when you jump through this hoop, when you get the A, then you're on the honor roll. And then and we have degraded children to this very day based on a grading system A through F. How in the world is a society supposed to elevate and heal and connect when we have labels around all of our heads and also in pieces of pepper that, you know, paper, pepper, uh, paper, you know, where Johnny got, you know, an F or a C. And somehow we're getting now, and then people wonder, well, why do we have self-esteem issues? Are you not looking at the millions of children and adults who have gone through this system of being told, oh, you're very smart. Oh, you're, you know, you got this great. And so there's a lot of facets. This is a topic I could talk about for a long time of disconnection because we have been disconnected, like the system has pulled parts of our soul off. We have fragmented. Because if you watch the Disney movies, you're gonna marry a Disney, you know, a Disney and have uh, you know, the white picket fence with the 2.5 dogs and You know, the three kids and the lovely wife. And meanwhile, people's white picket fences are torn down. They're destroyed. They don't, you know, there's yelling inside the the houses. There's fights. There's violence. There's abuse. Because the system, they have bought into a system that if they just follow the script, they will have happiness, they will have the money, they will have the status, they will have the success. They finally arrived and achieved. And now in the last maybe five, four years, people are slowly just slowly waking up of like I followed a system and a script that I was not privy to. I didn't even know I was doing it. And now, you know, they have been sad. And you know, more people are, you know, homesteading and, you know, gardening and, you know, trying to get back. And so one of my one of the initiatives, um, enterprises that I've collected that I've been working on is really to get people back into land. Like one of my goals is to have every person have dirt underneath their nails.

Gillian:

Yeah.

Hope Rose:

Like when you're celebrating that. Yeah, when you touch soil, you heal your soul, and we heal the soil vice versa. And so only one percent of land in the US is um organically farmed. And so another one of my goals is again to bring that number, you know, gosh, 90% of our farmland should be raised, you know, in organic principles that honor God, Mother Earth. And if you look, this is a little bit off tangent, but if you look at how mothers are treated, look at how Mother Earth is treated. Like we're like it's, you know, we call it Mother Earth for a reason. And look how mother women it's mirroring each other. It's a reflection. And so when we and that's why I want to get people back on to the land. Like you apologize to the land for how you have treated her and disrespected her, the feminine energetics will rise to meet that. And that is how we heal the collective. And I personally believe it starts with going back to the land, literally gardening with our hands, getting dirt underneath our nails, going barefoot, nourishing the earth, you know, with our tears and saying, I'm so sorry. How can I heal you? And when you heal the land, you heal yourself, and vice versa. And so I have a very big vision of of how that um will look, uh, which I'm very excited about. It's huge. So yeah.

Gillian:

Well, I'm inspired. I I love that you talked about um the the the programming. And I mean, whether you believe it was intentional or not, it it definitely exists. And what I do with the the course that I offer is I catch people when they're at that point where they make that realization that they've followed, they've followed the rule book and they did everything right. And when they arrive, they find that they're miserable, that they feel empty, that they have a lack of meaning, because they weren't taught how to really authentically grow into who they were created to be, their purpose. And I I think that's a really difficult place to be because your I your whole identity crumbles right in front of you. And uh I think it's so important to start talking about that because I think a lot of people are feeling it. And the response is numbing out, you know, scrolling and um, you know, just just numbing, numbing out. And you're talking about coming back to life, what it looks like to come back to the earth, to touch the soil, to grow your own food, to have like beautiful human connection again, where we're focusing on all the things that unite us. I mean, it it sounds like it sounds like a fantasy land, but I feel like it is possible if we all take personal responsibility, as you're saying.

Hope Rose:

Yeah, personal responsibility, the next framework is, you know, I mentioned earlier is that releasing the self-judgments. I'll um, I'll give the really quick statement, and people can follow up with me if they want more on it. The the statement is I forgive myself for buying in to the misbelief, fill in the blank, because the truth is fill in the blank. And you can interchange misbelief with um, I forgive myself for judging myself as I forgive myself for judging Joe as pathetic, because the truth is I don't know what happened in Joe's life. I forgive myself for buying into the misbelief that I'm not good enough, because the truth is I'm a lovable, resilient one heck of a woman. And so these statements bring you back into alignment and back well, I guess it actually does tie into just in disconnection because when we have judgments, so think of it. Um, I I need visuals for this, but picture with me. So when we have judgments, it is we have splintered off fragmented parts of ourselves. And that's why people feel like a shell. And so when we start forgiving ourselves for the judgment, we're not forgiving the other person for what they did. We are releasing the judgment we have of them. So like here's a vulnerable moment. I can talk all day about the other one. Here's a really vulnerable one. Like, I had a a judgment myself, a judgment of myself for a situation that I was pathetic. That is a very harsh word. So when I said, you know, like, okay, I went through the process of like, I forgive myself for buying into the misbelief that I'm pathetic. And it does have a little bit more power if you can name it for like the specific example. So you can put the specific example, just make it a couple words, because the truth is whatever the truth is for you in that in that instance. And that is how you bring connection back to yourself, back to source, and then you know, ultimately, like, you know, back to soil. I have lots of ideas, obviously. Uh, and so that is one way to like come home to yourself because you're releasing the judgments uh of yourself, of others, of situations that is taking personal responsibility. Um, another thing I would really like to share is language and personal responsibility. And so this is one I have worked on is well, there were uh, and people are invited to listen to my podcast where I kind of go in depth on some of these. I think I did a whole podcast on the word sorry. It's a whole collective thing. Um, mainly women use it. And it's a collect, like how many women, mainly women use it, but they just say sorry all the time. Like you run into a door and you're just like, sorry. And when you start to having the notice of like, why am I saying sorry? And what a collective is is the collective sorry for that statement is really apologizing for your existence. And I like before I did this work, I was saying sorry all the time. And this is not to bypass where authentic, true sorries are really needed. The majority of them are not. It's just like, you know, you bump something and you say sorry. And you're like, I don't even know why I said it. It's just it's so ingrained in our collective. So speech is a big thing. And so another one of like um claiming power in your life. Notice how often you say, I don't know, and switch that to I wonder. I wonder how that would look. Oh, I'm really curious because I don't know is an offloading of responsibility. Like you do know the answer. Maybe, maybe you do right now, but the answer is within you. And so when you shift that like off of you, you're not taking full ownership of like, oh, I wonder, and and you're also closing the door to a possibility that could be right in front of you. And so it's being, it's more, and so that statement also has to do with like living in abundance. Because when you say I don't know, it's very contractive, it's scarcity, loss, lack, mentality, energetics, versus I wonder. I wonder what this would look like. Oh, I'm so curious.

Gillian:

Right.

Hope Rose:

I don't know, I don't know how I'm gonna pay my bills this month. Hmm. I wonder how I'm gonna pay my bills this month.

Gillian:

Yeah, that gentle curiosity.

Hope Rose:

Yeah, that gentle curiosity. And so just catch yourself and you're you don't start noticing other people say sorry, and I don't know a whole lot more now that you're aware of it, and just really, you know, and so the the redirect for instead of saying sorry, oh, excuse me, I apologize. Uh and sometimes you don't even, you know, need to say those. It could be something to, oh, I I bumped my knee in the door, you know, like call it out. But when you start to recognize those, you know, things that just habitually come out, and then we when we take power and ownership of what is coming of our speech, literally internally and externally, that is also another way to shift from victim consciousness to this powerful state.

Gillian:

Hmm. I will definitely keep that in mind. I'm Canadian and I feel like Canadians say sorry about everything. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Um but yeah, it's important to think about the words that you use. Um, I'm just curious, Hope Rose, we do have to wrap this up. This has been such a beautiful conversation. But for someone listening today who recognizes they've been giving their power away, what's the first small step toward reclaiming it?

Hope Rose:

Well, first of all, give yourself grace for having the awareness of you know, examples that are coming into your consciousness right now of like, oh, this is where I gave my power away. And give yourself care, compassion, love, all those different aspects of yourself that just want to be seen, heard, and understood. Those kind of like the core values of what people like really want. And then move into a place of starting to say those very simple things. No problem. I don't think I like this. You can start that like immediately, free of charge. I'll send you the bill later. Uh, just kidding. Uh, so yeah, you can you can take your power back immediately. And as soon as you do the universe, God will meet you in that moment too, because you're stepping up to that yes and saying, you know what? Like I do have this life to live. Why am I just giving it to people who don't even care about me? It's kind of like um Christmas gifts. How many people buy Christmas gifts for people they don't like or they feel obligated? Well, feel obligated to yourself. And I have this whole another framework of the self-caretaker and really care for yourself the way you would your child if you have a child. And when you take your power back, you can start loving yourself fully, not fragmented fragment late. That's a word. You're not fragmenting, you're disconnecting yourself off. And uh the release, the judgment statements, uh, those are super, super helpful. You know, like uh you can say them in your head, you can write them down. If you have a lot of judgments, I really recommend this practice like multiple times to the day of just literally writing everything down, of like, oh, I forgive myself. Oh, that belief came up, oh that judgment, I'm gonna release it. And you start, um, you start removing, you're kind of like the the um, what's the date, the statue of David? Like, what is the our uh Michelangelo said, David was there all along. I just removed what was in the way. So the same same principle for for you as a human of like you're just removing all that's misaligned. And what's underneath is that beautiful masterpiece that everybody can enjoy, and especially yourself.

Gillian:

I love that it's such a hopeful reminder that we can start changing the world by changing how we show up in this moment, like what's right in front of us, which is what be still and live is all about. So I appreciate that. Hope Rose, I would love for you to have the opportunity to share what you do through Heel Vi and how people can connect with you.

Hope Rose:

Awesome. Yeah, I mean, we could we might have to have a part two because I could talk a whole much, you know, a whole lot more on like be still and huh. There's always a lot to talk about. I will close though. Um Instagram, Hope Rose Speaks. Well, everywhere is Hope Rose Speaks. So yeah, website, Instagram, uh, YouTube, and then my uh podcast is a transformed life on all of the platforms. I do do video episodes on YouTube as well. And then Heal Guy, yeah, is my latest, um, one of my latest startups. It is making personal growth a tangible product and getting it into the hands of as many people that desire hope and healing and really disrupting the coaching industry um by making it, yeah, a product into retail stores. And so they can they can start with month one. We're starting with DTC first, so direct to consumer. And every 30 days you have a new theme to build a healthy system in your life. And so it's a curated deck of cards, comes with a little wooden stand. It is it's a pretty innovative um technology. So that is where they can find that, and they can find that on my store on uh at hope rose speaks.com.

Gillian:

Wonderful. Thank you for sharing. And I will share all of those um links on the description of this episode. And uh I just wanted to thank you for this conversation and for reminding us the most powerful act of change starts with us in the moment that we have right in front of us. It's so simple, not easy, as you said. It's so simple. So I would love to just invite everybody to do their part in their small way to be the healing they wish to see in the world around them.

Hope Rose:

Yes, and remember, you are worth it.

Gillian:

You are worth it. That's a great way to end this episode. Thank you so much for your time today, Hope Rose. Thanks, Jillian. Take care. As we close, I want to honor the courage it takes to listen to stories like Hope's and the courage it takes to live them and then share them in order to help people around you. Hope's Story reminds us that healing is not about erasing what happened, but about reclaiming authorship over who we are becoming, how we use our stories to help the world around us. If this conversation stirred something in you, I invite you to tend to that gently, to take a breath, step outside, reach out for support if needed. And remember, stillness is not avoidance. It's often the place where truth, strength, and hope quietly return. Thank you, Hope Rose, for trusting us with your story, and thank you for being here. Until next time, be still and live. Thank you so much for listening to Be Still and Live. If today's episode brought you a breath of peace or a moment of clarity, I'd love for you to subscribe, leave a review, or share it with someone who might need it too. For more resources to support your journey toward a slower, simpler, more connected life, visit SileoCoaching.com or connect with me on Instagram at SaleoCoaching. Until next time, be still and live.

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